So often when we see people going off and daring greatly…we only see the fruits of their labor LOOOONG after they are a big success. We don’t see the long process it took to get there. We don’t see the trials and errors. In this episode, Katie Hodges (an entrepreneur, coach, mother, and bold leader in her community) jumps on the podcast with me to talk about living a creative life, being brave, and most importantly…being willing to be vulnerable and messy in the service of building something new. She’s my she-ro and I feel tremendously grateful to have had her on the show. I hope you enjoy our goofy, messy and very real conversation.